How do we balance the age-old battles between expertise and accountability in government? What is the role of experts in governance? Why have the challenges of bureaucratic capacity and control become far greater in the twenty-first century? Join host Michael Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Professor Don Kettl, author of EXPERTS IN GOVERNMENT: The Deep State from Caligula to Trump and Beyond on a Special Edition of The Business of Government Hour – Conversations with Authors.








The Business of Government Hour is a weekly conversation with government executives and thought leaders who are changing the way government does business. Host Michael J. Keegan speaks to guests about leadership, public management, innovation, and their vision of government in the 21st century. Interviews are informative, insightful, and in-depth conversations on topics & trends at the intersection of government, technology, and leadership.